Let’s break this down step-by-step. **1. Company context — ENGIE** ENGIE is a large, integrated energy utility with regulated and unregulated operations, including renewables, gas, and energy services. Its revenue jumped to ~€93.9bn in 2022 from €57.9bn in 2021, largely due to higher energy prices. Profit from continuing operations was negative (-€1.8bn), but net profit was €0.4bn because of discontinued operations (€2.2bn gain). **2. Existing hybrids and equity structure** - "Deeply Subordinated Perpetual Notes" in equity: €3.393bn at end-2022 (€3.767bn at end-2021). - Hybrids are already being used; they even redeemed some in 2022 (operations on deeply subordinated perpetual notes: -€374m). - Equity attributable to owners of parent: €34.25bn. Existing hybrids / total adjusted capital is already around 8–9% assuming adjusted capital ≈ equity + hybrids + debt. So the starting point is not zero. **3. Financial ratios and rating considerations** - **Leverage**: Long-term borrowings were €28.1bn, current borrowings €12.5bn, total ~€40.6bn gross debt. - Finance costs rose sharply to €3.7bn from €2.06bn — higher rates are biting. - EBITDA (approximate): Current operating income including MTM & equity method = €5.37bn + D&A €5.19bn ≈ €10.56bn (then adjust for impairments, etc., but broadly >€10bn). - FFO/debt will be pressured by higher interest but still within investment-grade range. **4. Rating profile and market conditions** - ENGIE is rated in the BBB+/A- range (investment grade, but not strong "A range"). - Market rates: 5Y swap avg 1.73% in 2022, 10Y 1.93%. Corporate bond yields around 2.3% for subsenior. - Cost of hybrid would be higher than senior debt but not dramatically above existing subordinated cost given spreads. **5. Rationale for hybrid issuance amount** - The company already has hybrids outstanding, so 0% is not appropriate. - There are moderate refinancing needs and some pressure on metrics, but no transformational M&A or material downgrade risk evident. - The sharp increase in interest costs could make additional hybrid less attractive from a cost perspective, but still useful to keep FFO/debt metrics robust. - The previous issuance cap of up to €3bn/year suggests room for additional hybrid, but not up to the 15% maximum. - Given already ~€3.4bn in hybrids, total adjusted capital of ~€70–75bn, current hybrid % is ~4.5–5%. Issuing up to another ~€2bn would bring it to around 7.5% total, which aligns with "moderate refinancing needs, meaningful improvement in adjusted leverage metrics" scenario. **Conclusion** A target of **7.5%** total adjusted capital in hybrids is appropriate — moderately improves credit metrics without materially increasing the cost of debt. 7.5%